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Ace Boogi
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Posted - 2013.11.01 11:39:00 -
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Neo Kathura wrote:wow. even if you like somer this is reason enough to boycott them entirely.
somer you lost, the rules are being enforced, and theyve kindly given you a grace period to give you time to change the site. you are abusing that and showing that its all about the money not about the community. sickening. it was never about the community. today's events are showing Somer's true colors. they are a purely for-profit entity selling isk as an irl business. two clear violations of the EULA and they're pushing the envelope by 5x-ing the amount of RMT. CCP look foolish having vouched for them. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 11:47:00 -
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Tron 3K wrote:Hmm anyone have a link to where CCP said this is wrong and gave them a grace period? i suspect we won't hear anything from CCP until nov. 7th or after, when Somer is finished cashing out. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:52:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?
CCP has set a strict deadline. 10 days and then all incentives and rewards in return for the use of affiliate links are to be gone. That's it. Until then anyone is free to do whatever they like. Taking advantage of the time you have left is not rocket science, any reasonably smart person would do this. See the Amazon mess up, people took massive advantage of that because they knew it could end at any minute. Somer has 300T isk to burn through. 1 trillion is a thousand billions. So, giving out 1b per $1.75 of GTC, profits would be 300,000 x 1.75 = $525,000. thats over half a million USD if Somer can RMT all his isk at that absurdly tempting conversion rate. a lot of people are taking advantage of these ridiculous isk firesale so they stand to make a ridiculous amount of profit. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 12:58:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?
CCP has set a strict deadline. 10 days and then all incentives and rewards in return for the use of affiliate links are to be gone. That's it. Until then anyone is free to do whatever they like. Taking advantage of the time you have left is not rocket science, any reasonably smart person would do this. See the Amazon mess up, people took massive advantage of that because they knew it could end at any minute. The 10 days is not given so they can make as much as they can. It's given so that they have time to make the technical changes to stop. They are simply showing they have the ability to stop at any time, but want to push sales.And I'll stop complaining when Somer are either shut down or they start looking out for the best interests of the community and not lining their pockets. yep, they sure changed their page real quick. earlier, i had predicted that Somer would just handle the situation by keeping their bonus credit link up but not acknowledging the cease and desist order, and only quietly changing the link at the last minute.
they surprised me with this one. even i wasn't expecting them to be this flagrant in flipping off not only the playerbase, but CCP, which vouched for them and now looks like morons. if you go check out their chat, they're blaming the forums for going after them with pitchforks and their customers are actually eating that **** up. but not everyone is blind. it's a pathetic sight to see how they responded to CCP's cease and desist order. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:12:00 -
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Dudley Schwartz wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining? No. I will not stop complaining. I don't know who is in charge of public relations at CCP Games, but whoever it is needs to come out right now and disassociate that company from SOMER immediately and publicly. There also needs to be some kind of explanation to the playerbase as WTF has been going on. I await the day that an explanation is released by CCP, on this matter. I really am genuinely frustrated... what can i/we do though? Smashing a structure in Jita is not going to help, nor is cutting our nose off to spike our face (unsubbing). actually, the unsubbing seems to be the only thing they understand. remember, 'watch what they do, not what they say'.
this scandal has reached a stage where there needs to be serious consequences. clearly, something is wrong at CCP, and we have to put a stop to it. we pay their salaries and fund their projects, perhaps they should think twice before shitting on their playerbase. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:17:00 -
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corbexx wrote: In the nosey gamer article it was stated somer gets 8% kick back not 5% so its attually $2.80 a GTC or $840,000 if they can get rid of it all.
the last big celebration i was at, Somer was late for the draw because she was moving into a new house. wonder who paid for it... |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:21:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote: Ah yes, but it wasn't actually against any rules until CCP changed those same rules. If you want to believe the skewed rationalizations posted around the forums then feel free to do so. But the fact is that is that up until a few days ago, what SOMER was doing was perfectly legal within the EULA and the reseller agreement. And you can't punish someone for doing something that is legal. Simple as that.
you're the kind of dude who would have testified at Nuremberg that what he did was ok because he was just following orders.
Godwin's law blah blah  |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:30:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Ace Boogi wrote:TigerXtrm wrote: Ah yes, but it wasn't actually against any rules until CCP changed those same rules. If you want to believe the skewed rationalizations posted around the forums then feel free to do so. But the fact is that is that up until a few days ago, what SOMER was doing was perfectly legal within the EULA and the reseller agreement. And you can't punish someone for doing something that is legal. Simple as that.
you're the kind of dude who would have testified at Nuremberg that what he did was ok because he was just following orders. Godwin's law blah blah  That's an idiotic comparison... yes, i wrote a reply fit for an idiot |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:32:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Yeah because god forbid someone has a good idea and makes more money than the average Joe  . Whether or not they need the money for server upkeep, I think SOMER had a good thing going and in a troubled economy like today that's something I like to encourage. You really are a shill, aren't you? What's the next line you guys are going to spew? Here's a good one! "Andrew and/or Somerset can't get on the Obamacare website so they need this extra income to pay for those awful out-of-pocket healthcare expenses." There you go -- run with it! damnit, you beat me to the Andrev / Obamacare reference.  |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:40:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Ace Boogi wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Yeah because god forbid someone has a good idea and makes more money than the average Joe  . Whether or not they need the money for server upkeep, I think SOMER had a good thing going and in a troubled economy like today that's something I like to encourage. You really are a shill, aren't you? What's the next line you guys are going to spew? Here's a good one! "Andrew and/or Somerset can't get on the Obamacare website so they need this extra income to pay for those awful out-of-pocket healthcare expenses." There you go -- run with it! damnit, you beat me to the Andrev / Obamacare reference.  And the SOMER people are getting so shameless that I am surprised they they haven't used it yet. Seriously. well, Andrev is using the starving server admin defence, and as the Obamacare website cost $500mil to make yet only signed up 6 people on the first morning... i suppose if they were using the same devs and host, a $1mil USD operating fee would be feasible  |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:56:00 -
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Dudley Schwartz wrote:
This is what makes me sick.
I think because of BLINKS actions, they should be shutdown permanently. Its apparent that they are all for the money and not for our beloved community/game. What can we do to stop this? CCP Please act now, we want BLINK to receive a proper punishment.
seizure of all isk/assets and a round of permanent bans for all associated Somer accounts and a serious look at the way things are being run at CCP are desperately needed if the integrity of the sandbox is to be protected.
we are posting in an 'eve is dying' thread |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:08:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:I don't see the problem here.
they have a bunch of worthless stock (ISK).
So they are trying to sell it at cut-rate prices so they recoup their investment. Just like any business.
we have to allow them 10 days to get their business in order again, which may include getting rid of as much ISK as they can to convert to real money. so you don't see anything wrong with 2 major EULA violations, and in fact feel we have to allow them to continue those violations for another week? |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:30:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:*trips over room to find CC* that's exactly what they want. for you to give them realbux. they don't give a **** about you, the community, or the game beyond that. they've shown this through their actions in the last day. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:33:00 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:My favorite part about these threads is finding all the Somer alts and shills and writing their names down for later to hand over to Marmite or some other corp. put some alts into their corps and awox them or steal their ****. it's way more fun  |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:39:00 -
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Dudley Schwartz wrote:The Question is now; what happens next? I can see no other way to deal with this matter, other than a permanent ban for BLINK and its associates. What other punishment is there?
What do you think CCP should do to solve this matter?
a ban is definitely in order. there also needs to be a serious look at the CCP employees who facilitated this fiasco to search out any signs of corruption, because at this point CCP is about as 'trustworthy' and 'honourable' as Somer is. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:42:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:A true pillar of the community right there. I'm glad the wonderful people of Somer Blink who so selflessly contribute are getting the recognition and Ishukone Watch Scorpions they deserve.
/s 300T isk wasn't enough for them to RMT so CCP gave them a couple tril more  |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:51:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:They got what they want and i made out like a bandit too..
Like you didnt jump on the amazon mistake? lmao ... strike while iron is hot i always say Would you also loot shops when there's a riot going on? No security, window's already broken... Strike while the iron is hot an all that... Or an old lady falls asleep on the bus, and a few notes are lying half out of her purse. Take them right? The iron is hot! Being able to do something and profit doesn't automatically make it the right thing to do. he'd prolly watch the door and excuses while his buddy rapes a passed out teen. that's what he's metaphorically doing with his shilling for Somer. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
155
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:53:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:
Way over the line buddy
something about striking while the iron is hot and all that 
and i'm not your buddy. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:22:00 -
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Argus Sorn wrote:https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176
If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick. i don't do twitter/facebook myself, but i've seen other screens of **** like that. invitations to dinners and the like. real chummy stuff. i'm sure they are all on first name basis.
also, i saw your post in the channel. didn't take long for them to kick you did it  |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:43:00 -
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MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:Most of us could care less. you could care less, but you don't, because you're emotionally invested in shilling for an RMT corporation for some reason |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:45:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Somer's Practice has always been against the EULA. Yet, here we have Somer proclaim they already know the ruling. Meanwhile, the only communication from CCP has been to GTC Re-sellers, and not a word to the community. Somer multiplies the deal (potential money for CCP were Somer to fully cash out would be in excess of $5m USD) to squeeze out every last drop. We, the players are left incredulous, staring slack-jawed at the screen with one of those slight head-tilts that implies one's belief this may all be a bad dream. WAKE THE **** UP CCP!!!! Greed is good. RMT is good when it sells GTC. |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.02 00:56:00 -
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Fresh from their official channel:
http://i.imgur.com/BRNBOzY.png
Somer: winning Eve's RMT metagame, one degenerate gambler at a time |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.02 00:59:00 -
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AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:I bought 4 60 day GTC giving me 5 billion in blink credit, converted it to 7 plexes and a zealot contrated to jita lol yep, Somer's really going balls-out with the RMT. you paid them less than 8 bucks to get all that free loot 
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Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:06:00 -
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[07:50:06] Andren Vox > Sola - Nah, we've no desire to handle people's real money. Some eve players get crazy enough about the pretend money :p
[07:52:10] Andren Vox > Sola - CCP wants the rewards for referrals thing to stop all together. We're not gonna try and game our way around that request :p
[07:54:05] Forlorn Eskimo > its not about earning for blink its about paying for the server its a hobby after all
[07:59:36] Andren Vox > We're not worried about it, honestly. We'll let the banner stay up without the bonus and just see how it goes.
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this guy is such a weasel. the obama administration should hire him as their pr guy, he'd fit right in bet you Somer will have a big 'donate to' button up soon. cause the first $135k wasn't enough and the $500+k they are attempting to firesale now apprently isn't enough either  |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:20:00 -
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Deka Ekato wrote:Still nothing from CCP.  i'm actually hoping their big announcement next week is that CCP and Somer are matching all player plex donates in the drive to help the Philippines. that would do a lot to help restore their image as a service that gives back to the community. after all the isk they gave away during their cashout, followed by slowing down their celebration giveaways, i'm sure they have the isk bankroll to be able to do this. it would do a lot towards reconciliation imo. |
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